{"id":14063,"date":"2013-06-25T00:00:34","date_gmt":"2013-06-25T00:00:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.metalforcesmagazine.com\/site\/?p=14063"},"modified":"2014-01-01T12:54:56","modified_gmt":"2014-01-01T12:54:56","slug":"feature-queensryche-06-13-pt1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.metalforcesmagazine.com\/site\/feature-queensryche-06-13-pt1\/","title":{"rendered":"QUEENSR\u0178CHE – Vindication, Part One (June 2013) | Features \/ Interviews @ Metal Forces Magazine"},"content":{"rendered":"

QUEENSR\u0178CHE – Vindication<\/strong><\/span>
\nAnthony Morgan<\/span>
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\nWashington heavy metal outfit Queensr\u00ffche underwent major upheaval during mid-2012. An April 12th group meeting was unattended by then vocalist Geoff Tate, a meeting which culminated in the firing of Tate\u2019s stepdaughter Miranda, who oversaw Queensr\u00ffche\u2019s fan club. That same meeting additionally resulted in the firing of manager Susan, Tate\u2019s wife. Two days later prior to soundcheck at a S\u00e3o Paulo, Brazil concert date, Tate argued with his fellow Queensr\u00ffche members in relation to the firings. This allegedly culminated in a physical altercation, a conference call subsequently occurring in early June. Tate withdrew from the conference call, the remaining members voting unanimously to dismiss the frontman. To summarise, musical differences, personal differences, and financial issues could arguably be cited as reasons behind the split.<\/p>\n

\u201cIt\u2019s all three of those, and if not, then even more things,\u201d admits Scott Rockenfield, drummer and co-founder of Queensr\u00ffche. \u201cThere\u2019s a lot of stuff that goes into any type of break-up, I suppose. This one, since we\u2019re in a musical situation a lot of it is creative. We weren\u2019t seeing eye-to-eye musically, as they say. Michael (Wilton, guitars), Eddie (Jackson, bass), and I have been trying for years to play a lot of the old Queensr\u00ffche material in our live show, and Geoff just wouldn\u2019t have it. He wasn\u2019t interested in doing it \u2013 he didn\u2019t want to do it, etcetera, etcetera. That has been an ongoing struggle for a while, but also making new music was a struggle for many years. I think the calibre of what Queensr\u00ffche music should be, we weren\u2019t agreeing on that as well. Michael, Eddie, and I once again had an idea of what we wanted to be doing musically as Queensr\u00ffche, and Geoff just really wasn\u2019t interested in that type of direction. We just had to make a final decision based a lot of those things. A lot of it was financial, where we wanted to make some financial decisions.\u201d<\/p>\n

The ensemble\u2019s June 2013 full-length<\/a> aside, the sticksman is dismissive of Queensr\u00ffche\u2019s more recent studio offerings. \u201cTo be honest, we weren\u2019t all mentally a part of a lot of that stuff,\u201d he confesses. \u201cIt was a struggle. We\u2019ve been writing music and submitting it as what we felt we should be doing, but Geoff didn\u2019t like the style or wasn\u2019t interested. His solution was that he was going to only sing on music that he wanted to work on, and that became music by other people. I think our records have suffered greatly because of that, and that\u2019s what we really want to get back to. This new record is only written by us five; it\u2019s Michael, Eddie, me, Todd (La Torre, vocals), and Parker (Lundgren, guitars). We sat and wrote the entire record together, and I think that the strength of the record is that sound. It sounds like we worked on it together \u2013 it sounds like a band. That\u2019s been a goal of ours for a long time, and I think now is just the time for us to do that.\u201d<\/p>\n

New Queensr\u00ffche vocalist Todd La Torre initially met axeman Michael Wilton during January 2012\u2019s NAMM Show in Anaheim, California. \u201cWe had a private artist dinner party, and we just started talking about some side music for some TV \u2013 things like that,\u201d he remembers. \u201cWe just kind of hit it off really well, and had a good rapport. That just kind of evolved into songwriting and collaborating, just the two of us. When that chemistry then became evident very quickly, I think he felt it would be in his interest to introduce that music and idea to the rest of his band. It just kind of evolved from there. That was my initial introduction to all of the guys in Queensr\u00ffche.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cTo kind of elaborate a little bit more on Todd\u2019s introduction about how he met Michael and how he got introduced to each of us in the band, we were at a point back in the spring of 2012 where Michael, Eddie, and I didn\u2019t really have anything to do,\u201d Scott augments. \u201cGeoff was focusing on going out and doing a bunch of solo touring to support a record that he put out (Kings & Thieves<\/em><\/a>, November 2012), and we wanted to keep doing something. Michael had met Todd, and suggested that him, Eddie, and I should maybe go out and just put together a really great setlist of songs, the majority of which were old Queensr\u00ffche material. Michael suggested that we come up with a different band, and just go out, have some fun, and play some shows. That\u2019s actually what we did in June 2012. We rehearsed for a couple of weeks, and we put together a show. We called the band at the time Rising West. <\/p>\n

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\u201cWe did these shows in June 2012 in Seattle, and they were really just to have fun. They were so we could play some of the old Queensr\u00ffche material that we hadn\u2019t been able to play for a long time. Todd came into the band, and he was a great fit for being able to represent our catalogue from the past. We did those two shows, and they were very successful. They really showed us that we could have a lot of fun together, and that we had a great chemistry. Well, the interesting thing about that time was that was exactly at the same time that Geoff had decided that he wasn\u2019t being involved with Queensr\u00ffche any more. Michael, Eddie, and I wanted to move on with Queensr\u00ffche, so we went through a transition from Geoff. <\/p>\n

\u201cRight at that time we had already known Todd, and we knew that we could work together. We just brought him into the whole thing. He was interested in doing it and we wanted to keep going as Queensr\u00ffche, and so we did. That\u2019s what we\u2019ve been doing ever since basically June 2012. We\u2019ve been playing shows around the world as Queensr\u00ffche with Todd in the band, and then we\u2019ve made a new record. That\u2019s kind of where we\u2019re at. I think that sums up everything really about what we\u2019ve gone through, and why we\u2019re at where we\u2019re at right now.\u201d<\/p>\n

Although this respective incarnation was initially dubbed Rising West, the aforementioned June 2013 platter was never slated for issue under the Rising West moniker. \u201cThis was always going to be a Queensr\u00ffche record, because we started making this after we had made the decision to move on from our relationship with Geoff,\u201d the rhythmist clarifies. \u201cAt that same time, like I said, once we realised that Todd could come into what we wanted to do and that we could continue as Queensr\u00ffche, our next goal right after that was we really wanted to make a record together and have some fun doing that. We already knew that we would have a really good chemistry of writing songs together, so we started doing that later in the summer of 2012. We just continued. We\u2019ve got a new management company that\u2019s really supportive, and we just knew that we wanted to do that. This was basically always going to be a Queensr\u00ffche record, yes.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u2018A Queensr\u00ffche record\u2019 is a description which Geoff Tate would apply to Frequency Unknown<\/em>. Surfacing via Deadline Music in April 2013, the effort additionally bears the Queensr\u00ffche name. The relevant personnel consist of Tate, not to mention a raft of guest musicians. \u201cThere are obviously little bits here and there that are out there, but I haven\u2019t spent any time focusing on it,\u201d Scott shares. \u201cIn all honesty, whatever is going on for us in our Queensr\u00ffche and what we\u2019re doing is busy times, and it\u2019s fun busy times. Making the record was a lot of work though, and it was a lot of time that we put into it to make it the best that we could. We\u2019re playing shows around the world, we\u2019re travelling a lot, and we\u2019re doing interviews constantly. That energy requires a lot of focus, and we just kind of try to keep focused on that. What\u2019s so great about what we\u2019ve done, and the confidence that we\u2019ve put into the music that we\u2019ve made is… <\/p>\n

\u201cI think the proof is always gonna be with the fans, but so far the fan support for our live shows over the past year has been overwhelming. All around the world they\u2019ve been supporting, and they\u2019re glad that we\u2019re back and having fun and doing what we feel we should be doing. The fans are enjoying that, but they\u2019ve also enjoyed the anticipation. Their anticipation for our record was really high, and I think that\u2019s always gonna be the proof in the pudding. We can\u2019t really complain. It just is what it is, but I don\u2019t really follow all of that other stuff that\u2019s going on.\u201d<\/p>\n

At the time of writing, the ownership of Queensr\u00ffche\u2019s name is at the centre of a legal dispute, a dispute dating back to June 12th, 2012. \u201cThere hasn\u2019t been a decision yet on the ownership of the name. About eight months ago in the battle for who gets the name \u2013 whether it\u2019s Geoff or it\u2019s Michael, Eddie, and I, because we\u2019re the four owners of the corporation \u2013 it became this Washington state law thing where somebody gets the name, because there can\u2019t be two,\u201d the percussionist explains. \u201cI doubt if there\u2019ll ever be two, but the judge let it ride with two until November when she will actually make a final decision. That\u2019s where we\u2019re at. <\/p>\n

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\u201cIn the next four or five months or so \u2013 if it goes that far \u2013 is when a judge will make a final decision. But listen. At this point in time, our confidence about what we\u2019re doing as us being Queensr\u00ffche is pretty high. Michael, Eddie, and I have co-owned the name Queensr\u00ffche \u2013 as three out of four co-owners of the name \u2013 as long as anybody else. We\u2019ve absolutely been in the band even longer than Geoff has been in the band, so we have the absolute right to carry on as Queensr\u00ffche. We\u2019re be able to go out and perform the material live like it\u2019s supposed to be played. <\/p>\n

\u201cI think now with Todd in the band, we\u2019re also proving that we have a relationship together of making new music, music that once again supports what we feel Queensr\u00ffche should sound like \u2013 what style of music, and what style of songs Queensr\u00ffche should be making. We feel great about that. So yeah, it\u2019s kind of a weird thing a little bit. There\u2019s another Queensr\u00ffche that\u2019s out there, and it kind of confuses people. To be honest, we don\u2019t even really know that there\u2019s another one, because we don\u2019t care about it. We don\u2019t think it\u2019s a very good representation of what Queensr\u00ffche should be. We feel that we better represent what the band is about in terms of our live music that we can play correctly, and in terms of making records that our fans want to hear.<\/p>\n

\u201cWe\u2019re just trying our best to just focus on what makes us strong, which is playing shows, making music, and supporting the record. I think that the proof will always be in the result, and I think that our result is pretty high right now.\u201d<\/p>\n

Queensr\u00ffche\u2019s highs and lows throughout the years could potentially be the subject of an engaging autobiography. \u201cAnything\u2019s possible,\u201d Scott muses. \u201cI\u2019ve actually started working on ideas through the years, of writing a book \u2013 I guess my own memoirs of everything that\u2019s gone on. Listen, at some point I would feel that there\u2019s a story to be told. It\u2019s an interesting situation that we\u2019ve gone through. We had a great 30-year career, and then we went through this major transition, and a sticky legal thing. However Geoff has been dealing with it has also been a bunch of drama, and interesting things. It could make for a fun read (laughs).\u201d<\/p>\n

A potential co-writer has been considered, but no firm decision has been made. \u201cI haven\u2019t gotten that far yet,\u201d the drummer informs. \u201cIt\u2019s mostly just jotting down ideas, and keeping journals. It\u2019s kind of a stream of thought, but I\u2019ve done quite a bit of it. I have a friend of mine who\u2019s actually a pretty well-known journalist here in the United States, and we\u2019ve been friends for a long time. He\u2019s interested in helping me when the time comes, so that could be a fun way to get things rolling.\u201d<\/p>\n

Queensr\u00ffche\u2019s early compositions were used as a musical barometer. \u201cI surely didn\u2019t want the band to sound adult contemporary,\u201d Todd notes. \u201cIn my opinion, I wanted the music to have all of the elements that everyone knew Queensr\u00ffche to have. I wanted to bring back a heavier sound vocally, and I wanted to hear the guitars crunching a little more. Obviously Scott is an amazing drummer, and I wanted Scott to really feel a part of everything that we were doing. The drumming on this record is… This is the great Scott Rockenfield playing drums again, and you can hear it. <\/p>\n

\u201cWhat I wanted to bring to the table and to this record is just an open mind. I wanted to be a team player that\u2019s willing to listen to any and all of their creative ideas, but also be treated and respected as an equal, and be able to share my musical thoughts and ideas. I don\u2019t mean just as a vocalist, but with different instruments as well. If I have an idea, they\u2019ve all been extremely receptive. Everyone was equal in every aspect of making this record. I wanted to bring back a heavier sound, but I didn\u2019t want it to be a heavy metal record. I wanted it to have heavy elements, but I wanted it to have emotion and melody, and be something that was timeless. I wanted the songs to be timeless, songs that are gonna hold up and stand the test of time.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cIf I can just interject really quick, because I think it\u2019s important what Todd is saying,\u201d Scott emphasizes. \u201cIf you wrap it all up, once we started making music, we kind of found what we used to be good at together. We wanted to revisit what made Queensr\u00ffche so special, and why the chemistry worked so well. A lot of that was in our earlier records. With our live show, we\u2019ve only been playing music from our first EP (Queensr\u00ffche<\/em>, September 1983) up through Empire<\/em> (August 1990) so to speak. I think that was kind of a great era for Queensr\u00ffche, that first ten years of us being together and making records. There was a chemistry that worked, and I think that focus is kind of what we wanted to do on this with Todd. The great thing about bringing Todd into it was we could focus on the energies of Queensr\u00ffche. <\/p>\n

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\u201cThere\u2019s some great progressive and rock, and there\u2019s metal, but they\u2019re all done still by focusing on every one of them being a good song. With the amount of styles on this new record, we\u2019ve got orchestrated music, we\u2019ve got uptempo, more aggressive songs on the record, and stuff like that. Every one of them still has a hook and a song though, and a focus. I think that was important to Queensr\u00ffche in the past, and I think we\u2019ve captured that again in the future. Now I think we\u2019ve done it with a great, new, modern flair however, so it still sounds like Queensr\u00ffche but we\u2019ve done it with our own new style. Todd definitely has his own style to what he does as well.\u201d<\/p>\n

As to which past Queensr\u00ffche full-length the June 2013 platter shares the most traits with, the rhythmist is ambivalent. \u201cWow,\u201d he responds. \u201cPersonally… Todd can answer this afterwards and give his opinion on it, because we might all have different ones. Again, I kind of think this one is kind of a culmination of a lot of things in Queensr\u00ffche. I think there are elements of our first EP and I think there are elements of The Warning<\/em> (September 1984), and then I think there are elements of Rage For Order<\/em> (July 1986), Operation: Mindcrime<\/em><\/a> (May 1988), Empire, and Promised Land<\/em> (October 1994). Listen, those are our first six records that I just listed out I think, but to me that was the important focus. That\u2019s what I was focusing on when we were writing the songs, and when I was doing my performances, and recording the drums, and everything else that I did. <\/p>\n

\u201cI think we captured a lot of that early, first 10-15 years of the Queensr\u00ffche sound and the Queensr\u00ffche energy. I don\u2019t think it sounds like any one in particular, and it\u2019s interesting. As we\u2019re doing more and more interviews, we\u2019re certainly getting great feedback. Some guys are like \u2018I think this sounds like Rage For Order, Version Two<\/em>,\u2019 and that\u2019s so awesome. Others are like \u2018I think this sounds like The Warning<\/em> meets Empire<\/em>,\u2019 or \u2018This sounds like the record that would\u2019ve come after Promised Land<\/em>\u2019 or something, so it\u2019s a great combination of feedback we\u2019re getting. So yeah, it\u2019s hard for me to just pinpoint one exact thing. I think it sounds like a great body of work though, and is absolutely the sound of Queensr\u00ffche.\u201d<\/p>\n

Todd is equally inconclusive. \u201cI can\u2019t say this album is closer to any one in particular,\u201d he concurs. \u201cJust to reiterate what Scott said though, I think that there are songs on this album that are reminiscent and have that energy and vibe. Some are like \u2018This sounds like it could\u2019ve been on Mindcrime<\/em>,\u2019 or \u2018This sounds like it could\u2019ve been written during the Empire days,\u2019 and so forth \u2013 from the EP up to Empire<\/em>, or Promised Land<\/em>. I think there are elements that are very reminiscent of those albums, but there are also one or two songs let\u2019s say that I don\u2019t think sound like they would\u2019ve been on any of those albums. For example, to me the song \u2018In This Light\u2019 doesn\u2019t sound like it would\u2019ve been on any of those. I think each song can stand on its own merits, but there are certain elements that I believe are reminiscent of the first five or six records.\u201d<\/p>\n

The frontman\u2019s vocals do not attempt to merely replicate those of his predecessor. \u201cI\u2019m sure that there are some vocal phrasings that I do that aren\u2019t something which Geoff may have done,\u201d he observes. \u201cThe only thing that I could maybe say is that sometimes I have a little bit of a rasp in my voice, and Geoff never appeared to have any type of rasp or grittiness to his voice. That\u2019s probably a texture that I implemented vocally that he didn\u2019t do, certainly. I think I\u2019m showing a high and low range, but in particular a high range that hasn\u2019t been present in some years from Geoff\u2019s vocal performances. Not to say that he couldn\u2019t do it, but I wasn\u2019t hearing that. I wanted to try to bring back some of the… Geoff was always known for having an amazing range, and so I wanted to be able to show some vocal acrobatics but not overdone. I didn\u2019t wanna sing everything so high, because I think it\u2019s overrated. I kind of like to have the high notes here and there as a cherry on top. Sometimes if you just do everything that you can do in every song, it just loses its cool factor.\u201d<\/p>\n

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\u201cOnce again, it\u2019s all about what\u2019s right for the song,\u201d Scott stresses. \u201cI think Todd did that very well by being himself. I think we still sound like Queensr\u00ffche, but he\u2019s able to do it by being himself and focusing on… All of us did for that matter, but in terms of what any song needs we each try to do to our best. That\u2019s so that the song just develops, and becomes the best that it can be without being overdone or anything. I think focusing on a good song is not an easy task, but I think we\u2019ve done it. I think we feel really good about what we\u2019ve done. Todd\u2019s really great about knowing what to do with his voice and how to deliver for any given song, so the chemistry has just been really great.\u201d<\/p>\n

Cutting the opus, Todd experienced a warm reception. \u201cWhen Todd came into the band, our whole arrangement together was that we were all in this together,\u201d the percussionist discerns. \u201cWe\u2019re all a part of this. We\u2019re gonna go out, we\u2019re gonna be Queensr\u00ffche, and we\u2019re gonna talk about it like its Queensr\u00ffche. There\u2019s not really any other way to look at it. We\u2019re gonna be a team together, and if we don\u2019t look at it that way then it\u2019s really not important to the rest of us either, because we\u2019re not interested in being… Kind of like a football team. You all mean something and you all have to go out with the same goal in mind, which is doing your job. You have to work as a team though, and that\u2019s one thing about Queensr\u00ffche. We can even talk a little bit about… Hey, listen. Queensr\u00ffche is never about one guy, and that\u2019s why for any one person to go out right now and call themselves Queensr\u00ffche to us is a little bit ridiculous. <\/p>\n

\u201cQueensr\u00ffche has always been about the team, and the chemistry together. Once again, that\u2019s why Michael, Eddie, and I feel like we have the most right to go out and do it, because we\u2019re the majority of what the band was from the beginning anyways. Now with Todd though \u2013 and listen, even Parker in the band \u2013 everything is equal. We\u2019re working together hard, we\u2019re enjoying the time together, and we\u2019re all open to discussion. We haven\u2019t had that energy for a long time, and we\u2019re just really happy that we\u2019re back to that again. I think it proves itself, and I think it shows in the new record that we have that energy together.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cAlso really quick, if I can add to what Scott said…,\u201d Todd replies. \u201cIf they were to say \u2018You\u2019re just a singer. Do it this way\u2019… I was granted complete creative freedom. Nobody told me \u2018Sing it this way\u2019, \u2018You have to sound like Geoff\u2019, or \u2018Do this\u2019 or \u2018Do that\u2019. That would have limited my creativity. When everybody feels that they are equal, then you\u2019re going to get so much more output from each member. If I went in with that feeling that they\u2019re just gonna tell me what to do and how to do it, and that they\u2019re gonna tell me what words to say, and not to do this, and not to do that… <\/p>\n

\u201cI think even subconsciously, it surely would have affected the level of love that I would have put into the album. As it was not like that, obviously my heart and soul in even the things that I didn\u2019t do \u2013 the guitar parts that those guys wrote, the bass lines that Eddie wrote. I can love those things that I didn\u2019t even create personally, because we\u2019re all in this together. Just like Scott said, when it\u2019s not a team thing, that\u2019s when resentment starts to happen. That\u2019s when there\u2019s animosity, and that\u2019s reflected in every aspect of performing, writing, and hanging out as friends. It\u2019s very important that everyone is respected and treated equally, for sure.\u201d<\/p>\n

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